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Bring back the death penalty?

I see an ex-judge has called for it to be re introduced for use in certain crimes.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/1116/1224258922186.html


Personally I would be dead against it being re-introduced


I know some murders and sex crimes are hard to stomach and sometimes it may feel right that they should suffer the chair but I still find it hard to justify.


Would many of you vote for it's re-introduction?

absolutely not, there's been too many miscarriages of justice in the past, and the State murdering an innocent person legally even once is too much

crazy man . lotta them around these days have noticed a big upsurge lately .

it would never come to a vote but there's no way i'd vote yes. like it was said above there is far too many miscarriages of justice for this to be fair. i'd like to see longer (or maybe stricter) sentencing for some crimes. it seems to happen all to often that someone gets 12 years for murder and gets out early for good behavior.


i know this was in america, but i saw 'Milk' the other day, but it's mad to think dan white only served 5 years in prison for manslaughter. it was a clear case of murder anyway, how could you not call sneaking into a government building with a gun premeditated?

I'd vote YES if I had more confidence in the judicial system. The police are incapable of doing a good job policing the country and getting people to court. The length of sentences is no deterrent to stop people murdering others, sexually abusing young kids and wrecking society. Hanging is too good for abusers of children imo. They don't deserve to be rehabilitated with tax payer’s money. Something has to give, every day all you here is about killers and abusers in court and the sentencing is an absolute joke. You would need a total over-haul of our courts before anything like hanging could be reintroduced. It would never happen so it is a pointless call from the ex-judge.

Did we not have a referendum that passed 80-20 a few years back which permanently got rid of the death penalty and expressly disallowed its reintroduction?

Was actually only 60-40:


The Twenty-first Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland introduced a constitutional ban on the death penalty and removed all references to capital punishment from the text. It was effected by the Twenty-first Amendment of the Constitution Act, 2001, which was approved by referendum on 7 June 2001 and signed into law on 27 March 2002.


The last execution in the Republic occurred in 1954 when the murderer Michael Manning was hanged, the sentence being carried out by Albert Pierrepoint who travelled from Britain where he was the official hangman. The penalty has been abolished in law since 1990. It is furthermore a condition of the membership of any country of the European Union that it abolish capital punishment. The Republic is also party to a number of international agreements forbidding the death penalty. These include Protocol No. 13 to the European Convention on Human Rights which forbids capital punishment even during time of war.


The Twenty-first Amendment was intended to give the state's long-standing abolition of capital punishment constitutional standing and prevent the Oireachtas (parliament) from reintroducing the penalty without a further referendum. In line with the state's commitment to abolition even during time of war, the Twenty-first Amendment provides that the death penalty cannot be imposed even during a "national emergency". This is the only explicit exception to the sweeping powers otherwise granted to the state during such an emergency. While the changes shown above are those made to the English language version of the constitution, constitutionally it is the Irish text that has precedence.

(Should have read the article first. lol )

Lizzyitis said:

I'd vote YES if I had more confidence in the judicial system. The police are incapable of doing a good job policing the country and getting people to court. The length of sentences is no deterrent to stop people murdering others, sexually abusing young kids and wrecking society. Hanging is too good for abusers of children imo. They don't deserve to be rehabilitated with tax payer’s money. Something has to give, every day all you here is about killers and abusers in court and the sentencing is an absolute joke. You would need a total over-haul of our courts before anything like hanging could be reintroduced. It would never happen so it is a pointless call from the ex-judge.

It costs more to put a prisoner to death than it does to jail them.


Definitely against the death penalty. It's not a deterrent, and one innocent person put to death is one too many.

You get a lot of that "but think how you'd feel if it was your brother or sister that was raped" argument if you say your against the death penalty. Sure, you'd want to murder them, but that's why relatives of victims don't set sentences.