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hodgson has failed in every league/international job he's had? ten league titles in norway and sweden would say differently. he also turned switerzerland into the third ranked team in the world but don't let that get in the way of slating him just because he wasn't good enough for liverpool. i think he was the wrong appointment in the first place but why do liverpool fans seem to hate him so much as if he's some kind conman? it's pathetic
Hodgson - England job?
Random_Sausage said:
hodgson has failed in every league/international job he's had? ten league titles in norway and sweden would say differently. he also turned switerzerland into the third ranked team in the world but don't let that get in the way of slating him just because he wasn't good enough for liverpool. i think he was the wrong appointment in the first place but why do liverpool fans seem to hate him so much as if he's some kind conman? it's pathetic
Cos the Norweigian and Sweedish leagues are such dominant european footballing powerhouses. Maybe hasty on my part saying he's failed every position he's had but those success stories you're beaming about are completely mediocre and don't provide sufficient reason to argue that he was ill-treated at Liverpool. Objectively speaking they certainly don't match Kenny's past successes nor do they warrant an argument in which it's claimed that to give Dalglish more time than Hodgson is a double standard and purely sentimental.
Fucking hell Dean, what I typed could be described as vitriol? Seriously? Misinformed, fair enough if so, as I'm not a Liverpool fan, I didn't pay any attention to his press conferences or, to be frank, much attention to the way you played under him. I would say that the club, under the old owners, was a different beast to that now under FSG, which has to come into the equation when you look at his general statements of intent etc. I'll give no argument to the defensive football issue, few fans want to see their club play like that.
As for your point re. Dalglish's managerial achievements, well, they are so far in the past that they barely deserve a mention when discussing his current ability to do the job. The premier league is a completely different beast to when he last won it, and well you know it. Fair enough if it was a factor in why they gave him the gig in the first place, but it's a completely different issue to what I'm saying. He's proved (to me at least, as well as a number of liverpool-supporting mates) that he's not cut out for competing at the upper reaches of the premier league in 2012.
No fans of a club, especially one with a tradition of success - Bar a shite Champs Lg and a Milk Cup here n there ain't it about time yis realised that yer not a sucessful club anymore and just get used to it. bo.
brokenaudiomovement said:
More gross misconceptions about our club but then, you get used to it. Hodgson wasn't berated strictly for his poor results (though obviously it was a big factor). What he was berated for was his stunningly defeatist attitude, his tactical illiteracy and unwillingness to change from a rigid, defensive 442 formation, his team selections which were geared towards containing and defending (see defeatist attitude) and his constant espousals to the media that our fans should lower expectations and not expect to beat teams like Bolton, West Brom and Everton. In light of the way this season's gone you could argue that we're being beaten by those clubs now so that point is moot but you can't ignore the fact that Hodgson's handling of such issues did him no favours. No fans of a club, especially one with a tradition of success, want to hear a manager telling them to effectively have no aspirations at all.
Re giving Dalglish more time - you know he's one of only 5 human beings on this planet to have won the English Championship 4 times or more and only two to have done this with two different clubs. Hodgson has failed in every league/international job he's ever had and has only been modestly successful keeping mediocre teams out of relegation zones. How you can say that there is double standards is beyond me, but then, I've gotten used to this level of misguided dross. Yes Dalglish's form has been beyond bad, yes we've had one of our worst runs in a long time, but to frame it that Hodgson was somehow deserving of the same chance that Dalglish is getting (sentimantality aside, though it is a factor) - based purely on achievement, is absurd. But again, as a Liverpool fan I am used to this level of misguided, misinformed, vitriolic dribble. Only, I'd expect more from you...
Get rid of Dalglish, he's passed it...he's our Keegan bla bla bla. we are living in the past after all & we just imagined the great football he had liverpool playing in the 2nd half of last season & that when he took over Liverpool were 13th in the league, also forgetting that this Liverpool team have dominated the best teams in the league this season but just love hitting the woodwork
Dalglish 1 cup win, 1 cup final this year criticised. Harry Redknapp the same in his entire 30 year career & only last week was been called the future England manager ,funny old world that a manager has to go & he's passed it after 1 full season with so many new signings
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How was harry's spend this year vs. Kenny's? What's harry's clubs current position in the league vs. kenny's?
interstellar_fugitive said:
No fans of a club, especially one with a tradition of success - Bar a shite Champs Lg and a Milk Cup here n there ain't it about time yis realised that yer not a sucessful club anymore and just get used to it. bo.
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Given the fact that we've won fuck all over the past twenty years and are still sitting second to United, does that not qualify as a tradition of success??
Also, why is it that only when Liverpool are being discussed that you chime in with your opinion, eh? 
ivanvarian said:
How was harry's spend this year vs. Kenny's? What's harry's clubs current position in the league vs. kenny's?
fairly irrelevant considering Harry is there since 2008 and has built the team since then, Dalglish hasnt got hat chance yet
but if spurs miss out on champions league next season and therfore win nothing and somehow liverpool beat chelsea on saturday which is a fair task in itself, will harry will have had the better season?